Museums!

Jul. 2nd, 2002 04:45 pm
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One of the interesting things that [livejournal.com profile] veek and I did this weekend was museum-hop. Now, historically, I have found myself to have a pathetically low museum saturation point. No matter how interested I was in the art I was looking at, I would find myself restless and itchy after a little while. This might be 45 minutes or it might be two hours, but it always happened.

Through absolutely zero deception, veek convinced me to get one of those little audioguides that you wear. It's a box that you sling around your neck with a number pad and headphones attached. When you see a painting with a number on the accompanying placard, you punch the number into your guide and it babbles about something vaguely relevant.

Usually, the guide seemed to just give some background information on the painting's subject; it would talk about the myth that it was depicting, or the location it was painted in, or the painter's blood type, whatever. It was almost always the case that whatever had caught my eye about the painting was left untouched. For example, I might wonder about the incredible use of light, or the tortured look in someone's eye, and the audioguide would tell me about how the painter was eating only zucchini during the time he was painting this work. I mean, it was interesting, perhaps, sometimes, but irrelevant.

It surprised me, then, to realize that with the aid of this useless little thing, I managed to remain below my museum saturation point! I think that listening to it did a few things:

* Caused me to focus only on the painting I was looking at, rather than get distracted by the scope of the collection;
* Tuned out the noises of the other museum patrons; and
* Gave me a different source of information to process.

As a result, we stayed a few hours until closing time and saw only a pathetically small fraction of the collection. That was a neat feeling!

Saturation Point

Date: 2002-07-03 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] srd.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, I get that too easily too. If I'm absolutely fascinated by a painting/picture you'll see me wandering away after an amazing 5 minutes maximum. And since the usual art in the usual museums doesn't interest me one bit, there are very few art museums where I need more than 30 minutes to have looked at everything. Maybe I was in too many museums in my childhood, or I read too much about historical stuff (for the archeological museums), but I rarely have the impression that I can learn anything new (which is probably another reason for my extended periods of boredom), and I don't have the patience to give them a chance to prove me wrong. Mummies? bah. Old pottery? right. The only thing that I can remember that interested me in a museum so far (excluding the science/technical museums, which are terribly rare in germany) was a) the surrealistic section in a museum in munich and b) "Moorcorpses" in Oldenburg. (what are those called in english anyway? people who drown in moors and bogs) These were found, after the bog dried out and was mined for peat. But they were kept in the museum under some preserving liquid. I spent hours in front of those when I young.
Anyway, trivia is cool - I value that kind of information even more than the more serious information about people and events. (Did you know that when Giger and his gf visited Salvatore Dali, that Dali wanted to witness a "mating" between them first hand? Giger declined though (I wonder why - his pictures are explicit enough)). And I guess museum folks assume that you already know something about whatever it is you're looking at, so they don't want to bore you with the trivial bits.

Re: Saturation Point

Date: 2002-07-03 09:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
You have a word for people who were drowned in bogs or moors? Like, something besides people-who-drowned-in-bogs-or-possibly-moors?

...

Re: Saturation Point

Date: 2002-07-03 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] srd.livejournal.com
Yeah. We call them (well, the bodies anyway) "Moorleiche", literal translation is in fact "moorcorpse". And bodies of regular drownees are called "Wasserleichen".

Re: Saturation Point

Date: 2002-07-03 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
Hell, I don't think we even have a word for people who have drowned in regular water, other than possibly "drowning victims". "Drownees"? Nah... Nope. Anyone?

Re: Saturation Point

Date: 2002-07-03 11:05 am (UTC)
tablesaw: -- (Default)
From: [personal profile] tablesaw
Doing a definition search at Merriam-Webster's Unabridged turns up nothing, but does note that Welsh for drown is boddi. So a person drowned in Wales might be a boddibody.

oof

Date: 2002-07-03 11:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
Perhaps someone who was a victim of bog (http://www.walespressphoto.com/sports/bog.htm) snorkeling (http://www.whatsgoingon.com/100things.cgi/bogsnorkeling/)?

Re: oof

Date: 2002-07-03 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] srd.livejournal.com
How did you ever find this?

The thought of swimming among centuries-old bodies probably makes competitors go faster.
Oh, yes, I can second that opinion. At times I get panic-attacks when swimming (in pools!), imagining a shark is following me. Watch me jump 2m straight out of the water, and run for the edge of the pool.
I hate swimming in ponds or the ocean for exactly this reason. You never know what lurks down there. And the thought of nudging some unknown and unseen terror is scary.

Re: oof

Date: 2002-07-03 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
Late night BBC broadcasts are my friends. I was listening to the radio with my mom on a long car trip a couple of years ago through rural British Columbia when, at about 2 am, the lovely announcer with the thick accent said, "AaaandNEXT on BBC1, bawrgshnuckling."

I swear!

Anyway, it turned out to be "bog snorkeling". I am fascinated. I think this is my new sport.
From: [identity profile] srd.livejournal.com
this page (http://www.drentsmuseum.nl/drentsde/archeolo/content/arcbog0.html) seems to have the most useable photos of Moorleichen that I can find with google. The links at the bottom take you to different photos of different corpses.

Strange how well known moorleichen are in germany/worked their way into the german consciousness, but there are almost no photos to be found on the net.

Date: 2002-07-03 09:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dilletante.livejournal.com
neat that that works!

and it makes me think that replacing those info bits could be an entertaining artwork in itself. :)

or, of course, writing them, with an eye towards the layout of the whole museum. it could impose a separate layer of structure on the display, in addition to the physical layout...

um, yeah.

i thought your museum saturation point was higher than mine, though. maybe we look at different things? they *were* pretty close, last i remember.

Date: 2002-07-03 09:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
or, of course, writing them, with an eye towards the layout of the whole museum. it could impose a separate layer of structure on the display, in addition to the physical layout...


Well, there was some of that type of structure. A lot of the entries had bits at the end that said something like "For more information on the other still lifes in this room, press "14". For information on Painter-Dude's time in Paris, press "30".

I think my saturation point is higher than yours, but only just. :)

Date: 2002-07-03 11:09 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tablesaw
The only time I have ever used one of those was when I went to visit the showing of Steve Martin's art collection at the Bellagio. It was great. Although sometimes he read from books talking about Important Painters, on a lot of them he just talked about why he really really liked them, which is one of the more interesting things about Art, after all.

Date: 2002-07-03 11:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dot_fennel
For some reason, the one time I used a museum audioguide, I couldn't stop giggling. It was very pleasant, though.

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