Date: 2009-05-14 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-xtina.livejournal.com
In fact, I am thinking of Alanis Morrisette's cover of that song.

Date: 2009-05-14 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
Ha!

It only took a few seconds for me to shift to hearing "Milkshake" in my head with camel back-up singers.

Date: 2009-05-14 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinnabarine.livejournal.com
A camel with "5!" humps would be so freaking sweet.

Also...

My hump, my hump. My hump, my hump, my hump. My hump, my hump. My lovely lady lumps.

*smacks ass*

Date: 2009-05-14 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oneagain.livejournal.com
For the record, I don't actually hate you.

Date: 2009-05-14 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] signsoflife.livejournal.com
. . . and the "Huh?!" just keeps going.

Date: 2009-05-14 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] signsoflife.livejournal.com
sometimes, cultural literacy isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Date: 2009-05-14 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
I find it leads to hating me.

Date: 2009-05-14 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] signsoflife.livejournal.com
hating you is like loving anyone else.

Date: 2009-05-14 05:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dpolicar
I'm reminded of the line "When I'm with you I feel like I could die and that would be all right."

You're left with the sense that it was meant as a compliment, but really, not so much.

Date: 2009-05-14 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] signsoflife.livejournal.com
you see, I rely on Molly's capacity to evaluate my remarks contextually.

Date: 2009-05-21 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weegoddess.livejournal.com
I'm reminded of the line "When I'm with you I feel like I could die and that would be all right."

Great, now *that* song is in my head.

::grumblegrumbleculturalliteracy::

Date: 2009-05-14 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nitouche.livejournal.com
I would ride on the hump of the wump of Gump, if Gump were to offer.

Date: 2009-05-14 04:02 pm (UTC)
dpolicar: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dpolicar
No, but I am thinking of Ogden Nash.

Date: 2009-05-14 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chanaleh.livejournal.com
The one-l lama, he's a priest?

Date: 2009-05-14 05:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dpolicar
A camel has but one hump, and a dromedary two.
Or else the other way around --
I'm never sure. Are you?

Edit: ah; I got it wrong, but close. Original here.
Edited Date: 2009-05-14 05:06 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-05-14 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuthalion.livejournal.com
I think something's seriously wrong with the internet. The "Ask Dr. Stupid" discussion of this subject is not available in video form anywhere!

Date: 2009-05-14 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuthalion.livejournal.com
Also: Hey all you people who were wrong: The way to remember it is the letter D has one hump but B has two.

Date: 2009-05-14 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spike.livejournal.com
Well, in English, sure.

Date: 2009-05-14 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuthalion.livejournal.com
Those letters have the same number of humps in all languages!

Date: 2009-05-14 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuthalion.livejournal.com
I submit that Б and B are not the same letter.

B and b are the same letter, and Б and б are the same letter.

Τ, Т, and T are all different letters, though they look the same (sometimes! lowercase they're: τ, т, t)

Don't ask me for any rules though. I would call the Norwegian B and the English B the same letter, even though the Norwegian alphabet has a few more letters, and I'd even call the German V and English V the same letter even though they're pronounced differently. And don't even get me started on Vietnamese (seriously: don't)

Living Dangerously

Date: 2009-05-14 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] signsoflife.livejournal.com
So tell me about Vietnamese!

Re: Living Dangerously

Date: 2009-05-14 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whynotkay.livejournal.com
Me too! I'm still trying to figure out why the korean 'm' sounds like a 'b' to me.

Re: Living Dangerously

Date: 2009-05-14 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] signsoflife.livejournal.com
That's interesting! I was reading recently that the difference between "Burma" and "Myanmar" is much more a difference in spelling than in pronunciation. And I think I read it in an article about the political-cultural issues surrounding the difference between "Bombay" and "Mumbai".

Re: Living Dangerously

Date: 2009-05-14 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whynotkay.livejournal.com
Oh wow, I didn't even connect it to that. That's a really good point!

Check out this amazingly cool explanation of their (designed) alphabet. Which does not explain my confusion, but still.

Re: Living Dangerously

Date: 2009-05-15 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuthalion.livejournal.com
Okay so now I'm not trying to get anything done here we go:

Their orthography is terrible. It was invented by French missionaries, and is based on the Roman alphabet. But it's got lots of sounds that aren't in French or other roman-alphabet-using languages. So they have nine different diacritics you can put on a vowel, about half of which are tone and half are sound, and you can mix them to make 72 different vowel glyphs. And of course the vowels don't really have the same vowel quality once you've started messing with the tones so it's all kind of approximations anyway. The consonants aren't much better - with the struck-through Ds (almost typeable!) and a bunch of pure consonants are represented by digraphs which don't correlate at all to what those digraphs sound like in other languages (TR -> some retroflex t). Plus the last letter of a syllable is often silent.

And then between the vowels and consonants they even get their spaces wrong! There's spaces between every syllable and as a result they'll claim that each one is its on word and they don't have polysyllabic words at all, but there's compound words (still with spaces between the parts) and sometimes one part of the "compound word" doesn't mean anything on its own and can't occur with any other words.

So anyway: Thanks a fucking lot, French missionaries!

Date: 2009-05-14 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spike.livejournal.com
Not if you're reading in a mirror.

Date: 2009-05-14 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spike.livejournal.com
Good easy helpful mnemonic:
     Bactrian camel is bihumpal.

Totally unhelpful mean antimnemonic:
     dromedary camel has deux humps.

Date: 2009-05-14 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
Mine: if you turn them sideways, a B has two humps, while a D only has one. This leads to easy bathtub-crayon drawings if you want to explain it to your three-year-old.

Date: 2009-05-14 06:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bluepapercup
This is how I was taught to remember it!

Date: 2009-05-14 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] signsoflife.livejournal.com
You see, YOU are truly a terrible person.

Date: 2009-05-14 05:03 pm (UTC)
dpolicar: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dpolicar
My favorite mnemonic for this is Ogden Nash's.

Date: 2009-05-14 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spike.livejournal.com
The camel lives 'twixt bumpy humps
Which practically confuse us chumps.
I think it clever of the camel
In such a fix to do so damn'well.

Date: 2009-05-14 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roy-batty.livejournal.com
You should have put this poll out yesterday. :-P

Date: 2009-05-14 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
Uh - why? It just came up in conversation last night. Was it Singing Camel Day or something?

Date: 2009-05-14 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roy-batty.livejournal.com
Yesterday was Wednesday . . . ya know . . . humpday.

Date: 2009-05-14 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hitchhiker.livejournal.com
i was thinking of a wonderful little mnemonic i learnt as a kid: "Just turn the big initial over on its flat behind - the Bactrian has more humps than the Dromedary kind", except in the book they had actually rotated the B and D 90 degrees so they looked like camel humps.

Date: 2009-05-14 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liminal-spaces.livejournal.com
...and now I've got Ogden Nash (http://poetrysplash.tripod.com/ogdennash2.htm) stuck in my head.
Thanks, I think.

Date: 2009-05-14 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veek.livejournal.com
*giggles*

It didn't even occur to me that these words might actually apply to camels IRL. I thought they were mathematical terms.

Date: 2009-05-14 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crouchback.livejournal.com
I got it in reverse!

By sheer coincidence, I am listening to a series of lectures about the Hellenistic world, and today's bit was about the Hellenistic Bactrian kingdom.

Also, I hate you, Milkman Molly! But that will probably wear off when I stop thinking about that bloody song.

Date: 2009-05-15 01:33 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] qwrrty.livejournal.com
I didn't think of them until you asked the question. Now I am. Therefore, I hate you.

(dum diddly dum diddly dum diddly)

Date: 2009-05-21 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weegoddess.livejournal.com
See, I need to catch up on posts more often. This whole thread had me chuckling.

Oh, and also, YAY! Happy happy day!

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