Date: 2007-11-26 08:52 pm (UTC)
cutieperson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cutieperson
i still miss having a plain old toaster though.

Date: 2007-11-26 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
It is important to note that the presence of a toaster oven does not remove the need for a toaster, should one want to plain old toast things.

Date: 2007-11-26 09:00 pm (UTC)
cutieperson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cutieperson
we lack room for both :(

Date: 2007-11-26 09:01 pm (UTC)
ext_86356: (alien)
From: [identity profile] qwrrty.livejournal.com
You can't just toast things in a toaster oven?!

Date: 2007-11-26 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
I hear it's not the same. Don't ask me, I don't like toast.

*gasp*

Date: 2007-11-26 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaggalagirl.livejournal.com
i'm not sure we can be friends anymore!

Re: *gasp*

Date: 2007-11-26 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aroraborealis.livejournal.com
Just think:

More toast for you!

Re: *gasp*

Date: 2007-11-27 05:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaggalagirl.livejournal.com
mmm.... toasty

Date: 2007-11-26 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] szasz.livejournal.com
It's much much slower to toast bread in a toaster oven. It does work, though.

Date: 2007-11-26 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aroraborealis.livejournal.com
You don't like toast?? What's not to like? It's bread! It's toasty! It's good with butter and jam!

Date: 2007-11-27 05:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
Oh, well, I like CHEESE toast. I'm not a fascist or anything.

Date: 2007-11-26 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harimad.livejournal.com
You can but the it's not the same. For example toastiness in a TO is uneven as compared to in a real toaster.

OTOH, reheated pizza in a real toaster doesn't come out so great. And microwaved tater tots (too impatient to wait for oven-cooked) get stuck in the slits and burst into flame.

In all seriousness, even older toaster ovens are more energy-efficient than an oven for small jobs (one piece of pizza, one piece of frozen cookie dough) and the new toaster ovens are much more energy efficient.

Date: 2007-11-26 10:39 pm (UTC)
bluepapercup: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bluepapercup
There is a little solid metal tray included just for your tater-tot and french-fry needs...

;)

Date: 2007-11-27 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harimad.livejournal.com
Not with my nuker. [pause] I don't think. I'll have to check the Pile of Weird, Unusual, and Unknown Bits that came with the kitchen. It'd be interesting to compare.

Date: 2007-11-27 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
even older toaster ovens are more energy-efficient than an oven for small jobs

This is a big selling point for me. Also, speed!

Date: 2007-11-27 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dr-memory.livejournal.com
OTOH, reheated pizza in a real toaster doesn't come out so great. And microwaved tater tots (too impatient to wait for oven-cooked) get stuck in the slits and burst into flame.

I know you meant this comically, but there's actually a real solution to those problems, and they are from all accounts awesome.

Date: 2007-11-27 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harimad.livejournal.com
They seem a little hard to find. :-< I want to give them to someone and see if they work. (Although $7 is not much, about the cost of all-purchased lunch out.)

Date: 2007-11-26 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuthalion.livejournal.com
Oh! Then I want to change my vote to "toaster ovens are Okay" if you aren't using them to make toast.

Date: 2007-11-26 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fanw.livejournal.com
They allow me to bake more pies. Whee!

Date: 2007-11-26 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rollick.livejournal.com
I am currently alone in my response, but I will defend it to the death-by-toaster-oven. I've never seen one that isn't a clunky, ugly, poor substitute for a nice stand-up toaster. About their only advantage is that they can be used to toast larger things that a toaster might choke on. But that's why the good lord done give us ovens.

Date: 2007-11-26 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sconstant.livejournal.com
When we moved we went from oven to slot toaster. Even though the old toaster oven kind of sucked (had two settings: (1) cold bread, and (2) blackened bread) and the new one is great on anything vertical except bagels, my toasted cheese and reheating needs are making me rethink the switch, bigtime.

Date: 2007-11-26 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
TOASTED CHEESE. Yes. Also, reheated pizza. And cooking fish! And toasty little canapes!

Won't you think of the canapes?

Date: 2007-11-26 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancingwolfgrrl.livejournal.com
In addition to all of this, I submit "baking small numbers of cookies to satisfy cravings."

Date: 2007-11-26 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
Yes! That!

That reminds me...

Date: 2007-11-26 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maighread.livejournal.com
Ooo, Eddie Izzard quote:
"The same people who make toasters make showers. They have a turny button too, and that lies. It goes turn turn turn for hot, or turn turn turn for cold. But the only position we're interested in is in between there... and there. One nanomillimeter between extremely fucking hot, and fantastically freezing!"

Re: That reminds me...

Date: 2007-11-26 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaggalagirl.livejournal.com
everyone in west london, STOP USING TAPS!!!

Re: That reminds me...

Date: 2007-11-26 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maighread.livejournal.com
I'm not using taps. I'm letting a mouse run over my hands.

Date: 2007-11-26 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jacflash.livejournal.com
I think both things are true. They are damned handy sometimes, but most of them are cheaply constructed and don't work very well. And I have yet to own one that would actually make decent toast.

Date: 2007-11-26 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancingwolfgrrl.livejournal.com
See, my version of the ultimate toast is made using the broiler of an oven. So my toaster oven (on both toast and broil settings) more closely replicates what I consider "decent toast" than any toaster I've tried.

Date: 2007-11-26 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rising-moon.livejournal.com
cheese toast!

Date: 2007-11-26 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jbsegal.livejournal.com
They also suck, though. So really, "yes"

Date: 2007-11-26 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-xtina.livejournal.com
Would a toaster oven be good for melting things?

I may want that, now, instead of a microwave.

Date: 2007-11-26 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-xtina.livejournal.com
Things like butter, mostly.  For those times when I'm baking, or eating toast and there's only butter in the house and who the fuck can use cold butter on toast anyways??  It tears up the toast!!

*pant pant*

Date: 2007-11-26 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harimad.livejournal.com
WONDRACIDE - the murder of white bread with a dull knife and cold butter.

Date: 2007-11-26 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dbang.livejournal.com
Sure, put a couple cold dollops of butter on your toast and pop it in the toaster oven for a bit.

Better yet, top with sugar and cinnamon and wait until it turn gooey. mmmm

Date: 2007-11-26 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aroraborealis.livejournal.com
Well.

Now I know what I'm having for dinner!

Date: 2007-11-26 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harimad.livejournal.com
Much good for melting things.

Microwaves butcher cheese, for example, leading to lumpy, greasy, internally-burnt cheese. Toaster ovens melt them evenly and gooily then - if you want - you can hit the toaster option and get the cheese nicely crisp as well.

You can also toast your bread (not as well as in a real toaster, we agree), put on a lump of cold butter, then let the butter soften in the TO and spread it when it's just right.

You can't reheat stuffing in a microwave without turning it soggy. A nuker murders breadstuffs even worse than it murders cheese.

Date: 2007-11-26 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keyne.livejournal.com
There's no option for "eh, I suppose they're useful for some things, but I personally have never experienced any worth owning one."

Date: 2007-11-26 10:42 pm (UTC)
bluepapercup: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bluepapercup
I love mine. I grew up with one and we used it for EVERYTHING. When lived alone I would poach fish for one using the toaster oven. I was shocked and horrified to find that Ben had never used one, but soon he was agreeing how awesome it was.

I actually even like TOAST that comes out of a toaster oven.

The only thing you can't do with them is make really, really tall sandwiches, because then the top catches on fire and flames shoot out of the toaster and your parents say curse words (oh my!). :)

Date: 2007-11-26 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chienne-folle.livejournal.com
I've never used a toaster oven, so I can't vote in the poll, which means it won't let me see the results. Please summarize them, once they're all in.

Date: 2007-11-27 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harimad.livejournal.com
Goodness - the lack of a Cos option! Horrific.

(Rule beats Suck, 82 to 9.)

Date: 2007-11-26 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodstones.livejournal.com
I am sometimes mocked for cooking everything I eat that requires cooking in a toaster oven

Date: 2007-11-27 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrf-arch.livejournal.com
Depends. For making a toasted cheese sandwich? Good. For enriching plutonium? They totally suck.

Date: 2007-11-27 03:42 am (UTC)

Date: 2007-11-27 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dr-memory.livejournal.com
Toaster ovens are often quite useful as little electric ovens: I use mine a lot to reheat an occasionally even cook food that a microwave would turn to mush and is too small to bother firing up the real oven for.

However, to a one, toaster ovens suck royally as toasters. I have yet to meet one that could do as good a job on sliced bread (nevermind a bagel) as a $7 Sunbeam two-slicer.

Date: 2007-11-28 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hitchhiker.livejournal.com
I have a real toaster and a real electric oven. They fill different ecological niches altogether :)

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