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moominmolly ([personal profile] moominmolly) wrote2008-02-26 12:43 pm
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[identity profile] dreda.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
But now that you mention it, it might be quite nice to have a little pigginess in one's corn chowder...

[identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Corn chowder often does contain bacon, it turns out!

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[identity profile] muckefuck.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Better restaurants will have real crumbled bacon for their salad bars, but most places I've been to use the presumably soy-based fakon.
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[identity profile] desiringsubject.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no idea what's in navy bean soup, but the others I answered honestly. :)

[identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Today, bacon, which is why the poll. I mean, who would have expected that?!

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[identity profile] palmir.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Depends on the salad bar. I've used fake-bacon bits for a long time, but recently bought a large quantity of actual-bacon bits (which go bad faster, but are sitting in a few bags in the freezer). They'd be fine sitting out for an hour or so at a salad bar, waiting to be eaten, and they're cheap in bulk.

I have no experience with split pea soup or navy bean soup, so I did not click the buttons.

[identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I should have asked, "which of these things would you assume contained bacon"?

I always admire restaurants with real bacon bits, but since bacon itself annoys me, it's less functional than the fake stuff. :)

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[identity profile] palmir.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
And this (http://shygypsy.com/farm/p.cgi) is still open in a tab from yesterday thanks to your request for distraction.

[identity profile] chienne-folle.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Surprisingly, "bacon" bits are usually soy, yet there's real pork in most baked beans.

There are vegetarian versions of all this stuff, though. I find most canned veg baked beans are too sweet, so I add a dollop of mustard and mix it in, and that makes them better.

[identity profile] chaiya.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Living the kosher life, I have found examples of all of the above, sadly. However, I answered the poll with what *should* contain pork fat (baked beans). Veggie baked beans are just not "real" to me. :(

[identity profile] sparkymonster.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
That said, many times split pea soup and baked beans have stealth pork.

Bacon bits contain no pig flesh/fat.

[identity profile] gravitrue.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
yesterday [livejournal.com profile] dwenius wrote:


They are putting bacon bits in dark chocolate now.

Surely the end is near.


[identity profile] muckefuck.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Funny, my brother's response to that same news was, "It's like they can see into my dreams!" I wouldn't call the Vosges Mo's Bacon Bar "dreamy", but I did eat the whole damn thing myself--and my boyfriend's, too!

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[identity profile] twoeleven.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
[x] they all do, but they shouldn't, so it's just not normal.
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[personal profile] cos 2008-02-26 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I interpreted "normally" *not* as "usually", but as "at least often enough that I wouldn't assume it doesn't without checking." In other words, that it's normal for these items to have it; not that it's abnormal for them not to.

[identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
That seems reasonable!
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[identity profile] qwrrty.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally expect split pea soup and navy bean soup to be made with salt pork and/or bacon. It is traditional. But that said, I don't really think it's necessary and am puzzled at how often people seem to think it is. Despite being a lover of all things pig, I find that all bean soup really needs in order to be tasty are the seasonings: vinegar, salt, pepper, garlic, onion, thyme, etc.

[identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Split pea soup I totally assume will be made with salt pork or whatever, because that's how my mom made it. I never made navy bean soup until I was in college, so I assume no bacon. I think that's basically how my breakdown goes -- if I ate it growing up, it basically had pork fat in it.

[identity profile] surrealestate.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
With no "I am me" choice (aka "none of the above"), I couldn't answer the poll at all. Wah.

[identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
You really wouldn't naturally expect ANY of them to have pork, if you sat down in a restaurant? Wow! I admit, I didn't expect that.

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[personal profile] jasra 2008-02-26 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Outback's clam chowder also contains bits of pork. I dunno why, but there you go.

[identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I mean, pigs ARE descended from bivalves. It's practically the same thing.

[identity profile] dancingwolfgrrl.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know about "normally," but they're all things I wouldn't eat without an ingredient list. Soup is extra fickle and can never be counted on -- grrrr.

[identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
For lo, you are wiser than I am. :)

[identity profile] gretchens.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I've not encountered bacon-corn chowder, but UM was always sullying the corn chowder with shrimp. I like shrimp, and I like corn chowder, but the combo was totally unappealing. The days the corn chowder was shrimp-free were far too few.

[identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com 2008-02-28 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Shrimp? That is not okay. And I love shrimp! But not okay.

[identity profile] signsoflife.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
A number of people have observed that bacon bits are generally not, but they still regularly contain "natural flavor", which I universally interpret on a meat-flavored product as being meat extract. (This was the source of the McDonald's controversy a few years back.)

I've never had navy bean soup or a turkey club, so can't comment.

I mean, basically I don't eat soup that I haven't prepared that isn't explicitly labeled vegetarian.

[identity profile] cuthalion.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I have never eaten any of these items. I have no idea what's in them, beyond their namesake ingredients.

btw: Navel beans!

[identity profile] chanaleh.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I answered as if "normally" means "I would routinely think to inquire about pork content before ordering/eating it." Corn chowder, no. Arrgh! I guess I will have to start asking...

[identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Answers I have gotten to the question "does this corn chowder have pork in it?":

(1) "Of COURSE it has pork in it! ALL corn chowder has pork in it!"
(2) "Of COURSE it doesn't have pork in it! Corn chowder NEVER has pork in it!"
(3) "Uhhhhhhhhhhh, I have no idea. Why?"

[identity profile] safetybitch.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Kind of scary how little confidence we have that bacon bits contain bacon, isn't it?

[identity profile] harimad.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
If one wishes to avoid pork products, one must always ask about bean dishes. Some bean dishes almost always have piggies (and yes, chowda is one) while others may or may not (baked beans).

You can substitute a smoked turkey part in many bean dishes and get the same yumminess. I like wings or necks, because the smoked skin holds more smoky flavor than smoked meat.

If you want a vegetarian dish, try adding spinach or nori at the very beginning of the bean cooking process. The spinach will make the beans taste both porkish (ie, add some of the depth that comes with preserved pig products) and a bit spinachy - but not spinachy that it turns off most people. The nori will make the beans taste better, and can be used in more applications. For example, I wouldn't put spinach in baked beans but I would put nori in. Again, it adds depth and some smoky flavor.

I made Cook's Illustrated's Tuscan Bean Stew over the weekend, using bacon grease for the pancetta. It also has tomatoes and chicken stock, and I added cooked quinoa for a complete protein. It came out surprisingly tasty in a subtle way. A stronger smoked flavor would have overwhelmed the dish.

[identity profile] intuition-ist.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
indeed, most kinds of starchy, beany soups are often flavored with pork products. and "club" sandwich usually means "add BLT and several more slices of bread to what ever kind of sandwich is being clubbed".

and bacon bits usually aren't actual pork.

verily, eit.

[identity profile] fenicedautun.livejournal.com 2008-02-27 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course, you could be in the South where they assume that green beans (you know, normally boiled or steamed up here as a side dish) include some sort of pig product (normally fatback). That was just the weirdest thing to me.