hmmmmmm.

May. 28th, 2002 01:49 pm
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I have the opportunity to move up to a more interesting position under a different management structure. I'd still be working for this company, but under new laws. I'd get more money and do more of the interesting technical stuff.That's pretty tempting. How much do I hate it here? How much of that is frustration at the position I'm in, and how much is actual company badness?

If I take the new position, I couldn't quit right away if it wasn't working out. I'd be making a more serious commitment.

Date: 2002-05-28 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veek.livejournal.com
How soon do you have to give them the answer? And would you still get to go to Amsterdam? And do you like the people you'd be working with, if you took this on? And is this offer the result of them suspecting that you may not be happy with your job?

And do you know I dreamed about our stuffed eggplant a couple of nights ago?!

No more Mr. Oogy...

Date: 2002-05-28 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] srd.livejournal.com
How would the new rules be different from the current ones? And how soon would you have to tell them to quit to a given date? And how much would you like working on your new tasks?

Re: No more Mr. Oogy...

Date: 2002-05-29 07:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
No more Mr. Oogy: big selling point. WHOOF is he creepy.

I'd still get to go to Amsterdam. The quitting rules wouldn't be any different, I suppose, but I'd be screwing them over even more if I left this position. For my own well-being, I'd want to give them at least a month's notice, really more like six weeks. I'd say that I'd enjoy the new job about 20 - 30% more, and that the bureaucracy involved would be about half as annoying.

But, y'know, I still wouldn't have my soul in it.

Where ist thy spirit, and what's the dang job?

Date: 2002-05-29 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseydtonne.livejournal.com
Since I'm not familiar with the details of your employer nor even what you do (I assume you code, though perhaps you splay hapless victims along the interstates for their transgressions), I'll start from the only places I can:
  • What disappoints you about your present employer that, even if you had the ideal pay and tasks, would not be enough to keep from leaving for less pay at a different job?
  • What do you want from your work life that you aren't getting now?
  • Which burdens in the proposed new job would augment issues you have with your employer?
  • Is your biggest grief with your employer their bureaucracy, a specific boss, a coworker, a fundamental attitude in the place, or a harmonic attitude that you've noticed during your employment?
  • Is your concern with your ability to leave the job based on a prospect to leave or merely the feelign that you could leave?
  • Could you accept being at this job for another five years, if you had a guarantee that you would have the job that long?

These are some serious questions, but each can be answered succinctly. The goal is to clear mental blocks about the choice, get thinking flowing, and determine which assets you feel are being stifled.

Let me know (by email, I suppose) whether this exercise helped, especially since I just made it up and am tempted to try it myself.

My my my, this leter sounds like I've been a consultant. Sheesh.

-was that too much? Dante
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
Interesting questions. That's sort of what I've been asking myself, only you're more orderly about it. I won't get into my job, since it's more complex than it is interesting.

  • What disappoints me: I think we're moving away from "making quality stuff" and toward "maximizing shareholder value". To some degree, that's inevitable, but it doesn't have to go this far.
  • What do I want: I want to work for something I believe in, rather than for someone I can merely tolerate. (Cheesy, but, hey, there it is.) This can be read as "I want to do something Cool," or "I want to make the world a better place", or "I want to work for people who are making the world a better place".
  • What would augment my issues in the new job? Nothing. It would diminish them, to some degree. The area I'd be moving to has a bit less of the institutional rot.
  • My griefs, in order: the bureaucracy and their short-sighted decisions, the attitude shift that has occurred over the past few months, my boss's coworkers, my boss's lack of willingness to stand up for her charges.
  • My concern with my ability to leave is due to the fact that staying here would probably drive me bugfuck.
  • Could I stay here five years if I knew I could? Wow, that's the best question. Absolutely not.

    Hey, congratulations on your new gig!
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